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scalable ravings ravings on software development, by Matthias Jouan Menu Blog About MyToy : An Agile Product Development Game Search for: Blame roach is inherent in the concept of others : although I might think I know what I need, my understanding is limited to the things I know, to my own domain, and thus I might not be aware of what others know. others are not very likely to understand what exactly I need, leading to a very incomplete solution. My suggestion is to turn this interaction process upside-down : I identify a problem I need to solve for doing my job (better) I publicly expose my problem to the team : no others here Some of my teammates propose me things they can give me that would be relevant to solve my problem, according to their own knowledge and their own domain I collect what my teammates gave me I try to use those things to solve my problem, and improve collectively to a solution. Some benefits of using this approach : My teammates understand my job better Non-obvious solutions might emerge Nobody feels like they are working for nothing, or losing their time A very naive example now, to make things clearer : My job consists in hammering nails. For each kind of claw there is a kind of hammer that I get from my blacksmith. One day I am facing big difficulties with a new kind of claw. Classical interaction : I go to my blacksmith’s and ask him to make a bigger hammer. No-others interaction : I go to my blacksmith’s and show him the new kind of claw. He suggests me to use a screwdriver! Of course this is all very theoretical, so any comments would be appreciated. Share : Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window) Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window) Click to share on LinkedIn (Opens in new window) Click to share on Reddit (Opens in new window) Click to share on Pocket (Opens in new window) Leave a comment #NoOthers and #NoEstimates March 26, 2014 #NoEstimates , Break silos ! #noestimates , no others Matthias Jouan Yesterday I promised to give some concrete examples related to what I call #NoOthers. The first one will be #NoEstimates. What #NoEstimates should/could be Example #1 Product Manager : We have plenty of things to do on the product. There are many new features to add and there are also a couple of really embarrassing defects that we should address too. I need to know how long each of those things is going to take so that I can balance defects with new features in the schedule.” Dev#1 : Well…It ain’t easy to estimate bug fixing time before we get into it. As far as I can tell right now no bug solving ever took more than 3 days, but we can do some stats if you really need to make accurate forecasting.” Dev#2 : The thing is that we are not confident at all with the estimates we give you. For the smaller things we can have some interesting enough statistics based on what we already did in the past…but for user stories like foo or bar the scope is way too big.” Product Manager : I understand that you can’t give me accurate estimates…but I really need to know when we are going to start working on baz . At least sales people need to know.” Dev#2 : We can try to split foo and bar into smaller user stories so that they can fit into the stats we have, but maybe we could just consider working on baz right now if it’s that important?” … Example #2 Customer : I need to know how much it will cost me to have this product, and when it will be done.” Project Manager : Of course. But allow me to suggest that maybe your real need is not the one you think.” Customer : What do you mean?” Project Manager : Well, as far as I understand the product you want to build, you definitely need to get to the market as soon as possible.” Customer : Who needs not?” Project Manager : Yes. So let’s first try to focus on a core set of features that will allow you to get to the market quickly. We really want to extract the features that compose the very minimum product here. Then we could improve the product by adding the other features as described in the specs…or other features if needed. Does it make sense to you? ” Customer : It totally makes sense…but I still don’t see how much it will cost us in the end.” Project Manager : It will cost you the amount of money you want to put into it! Of course for the minimum product we will provide you some kind of cost estimate after breaking the selected features into small pieces of work, but for the rest you will be able to stop when you want to.” … What #NoEstimates sometimes is / How it is perceived Product Manager : We have plenty of things to do on the product. There are many new features to add and there are also a couple of really embarrassing defects that we should address too. I need to know how long each of those things is going to take so that I can balance defects with new features in the schedule.” Dev#1 : (thinking) He wants estimates, let’s give him estimates! Maybe he wants some random numbers to fill in a lottery ticket after all No more than two days for each of these bugs IMO. foo is pretty big : I think of 7 or 8 days of work. bar looks easier so I think it won’t take long.” Dev#2 : Not sure about bar : nobody has touched this part of the product for a while. I don’t think we can estimate that upfront… Hmm… What is the real purpose of this story again?” Product Manager : (thinking) Here we go again! NoEstimate bullshit! She doesn’t want to commit herself with an estimate and will argue about the purpose of every single piece of user story Come on! You guys are incredible…” … No Others I must admit those (almost) fictional pieces of dialog are a bit cliché, but they outline a key difference between what #NoEstimates is and how it is often perceived : #NoEstimates is a hashtag that gathers people who want to try and find an alternative to using estimates as a tool. It really is a #NoOthers concept in the sense that we need to understand everybody’s needs to find the best suited tool / way of working together (and we think that estimates might not be that tool). #NoEstimates is perceived as a rebellious community of developers – others – who do not want, or who simply can’t, understand what business people – us – need. #NoEstimates can be used as a banner to wave in front of product/project/whatever managers – others – who do not, or simply can’t, understand what dev people – us – need. More will come on this subject… Share : Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window) Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window) Click to share on LinkedIn (Opens in new window) Click to share on Reddit (Opens in new window) Click to share on Pocket (Opens in new window) View all 3 comments No Others March 25, 2014 Break silos ! no others , silos Matthias Jouan L’enfer, c’est les autres (Hell is other people) Huis clos, Jean-Paul Sartre Silos. Much have been written about them for years, DevOps has made its way, and I’m sure you are familiar with the whole break-down-the-silos thing as we have been hearing about during the last decade. Yet silos still exist. Why? Because there are others . Others . They don’t know us. They don’t know our job. They don’t know what we need to do our job well. They don’t quite seem to even bother trying to understand us. They are selfish and self-centered. They sometimes want to force us do our job in a certain way that is unnatural to us. They don’t want to help us. They basically don’t understand us at all…I’m sure you are thinking of some particular others right now. The very notion of others implies a conflict of some sort between them and us . But ask yourself : Are others the cause of the conflict or does the concept of others arise as a consequence of this conflict ? My opinion is that there should be no others . Others only exist because we choose to solve problems by accusing each other instead of working together…but this attitude does not solve any problem in the end of the day, and only breaks the team into silos : You are a developer and feel...

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